We are pleased to release the second episode of High Reliability, the Healthcare FM Podcast. High Reliability discusses the issues, challenges, and opportunities within the Facilities Management (FM) function and is created and produced by Gosselin/Martin Associates.

With COVID-19 impacting hospitals across the country, we asked Steve Spaanbroek, a founding partner of MSL Healthcare Partners, to join us. Steve has over 28 years of national consulting experience in the Environment of Care and Facilities Management. Steve was formerly the Director of Facilities Consulting for Premier, Inc.

In today’s episode, we cover the following areas with Steve, and more:

  • Could pre-planning have anticipated COVID-19 (5:40);
  • Lessons learned from the Space Program (10:10)
  • Are there recurring COVID-19 client themes (14:10);
  • What’s next, Part I (19:00);
  • Re-purposing construction (21:40).

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Additional, relevant podcasts

To listen to the first episode of High Reliability, featuring Scott Aronson

To listen to MSL’s Compliance for the Sake of the Patient 

Compliance for the Sake of the Patient

Coming Soon, the Career Hub!


Have you heard of Emotional Intelligence? Do you care about Emotional Intelligence? You may not care, but you should. Emotional Intelligence, and technical aptitude, are mandatory leadership requirements. 

What’s that got to do with the Gosselin/Martin Associates Career Hub? Well, in the Career Hub, you will be able to find information on Emotional Intelligence, as well as the latest news in healthcare facility management, podcasts, career ladders, job descriptions, job opportunities, and people. People like you, seeking to make sense of today’s HFM landscape. Look for The Career Hub later this Spring.

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